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Georgia Guidestones

Content below is from episode 166 of the Who’d a Thunk It? Podcast

RECOMMENDATION SEGMENT

  • This week I recommend you leave that bug alone!
    • LOL, I shall explain…
    • All my life Ive hated bugs. Id kill them at any chance.
    • But I’ve realized they are an important part of the ecosystem.
      • Exception being invasive bugs that destroy ecosystems they weren’t supposed to be in…
    • But bugs like spiders, wasps, ants, and so-forth… let them be. … if you can. Unless they are an immediate threat… just let them go.
    • Our planet is lacking insect numbers. The scientist have noticed a drop in numbers of all sorts of insect species. Chances are, that’s not healthy for the world’s ecosystem.

NOW FOR THE MAIN EVENT

  • About 100 miles east of Atlanta Georgia was the site of the Georgia Guidestones.
    • In 1981 the Elberton Granite Finishing Company published a 50-page book about one of the strangest jobs they had ever been hired to complete.
    • They had erected the Georgia Guidestones in a cow pasture about 7 miles outside a small farming community in the rural American south. It was all done under a cloud of mystery.
  • The New Yorker‘s Charles Bethea Writes:

Elberton bills itself as the “Granite Capital of the World,” owing to a massive deposit of fine-grained bluish-gray rock beneath it, which is used in two-thirds of U.S. headstones. The book celebrated a much different undertaking. The company had spent the previous year quarrying, sawing, refining, engraving, and positioning six stones—standing nearly twenty feet tall and collectively weighing a quarter of a million pounds—in a Stonehenge-like configuration. It was meant to function, partly, as a solar calendar. Of greater interest, though, were ten guiding principles engraved on the stones, in eight languages, including Chinese, Sanskrit, and Swahili; they seemed to anticipate a post-apocalyptic future. The instructions ranged from the sensible (“Be not a cancer on earth—leave room for nature” and “Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts”) to the eccentric, or even troubling (“Unite humanity with a living new language” and “Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature”). It was, by far, the town’s most popular tourist attraction.

The idea for the Georgia Guidestones, as they came to be called, had not originated with anyone at the Elberton Granite Finishing Company—nor, it seemed, with any Georgian at all. They had been commissioned, down to the most exacting detail, by a nattily dressed middle-aged man who showed up in town one June day in 1979 and introduced himself to Joe Fendley, the president of the granite company, as Robert C. Christian. This turned out to be a pseudonym. Christian shared his real identity with just two known Elbertonians: Fendley and the president of the local bank, Wyatt Martin, who acted as Christian’s escrow agent during the financing of the monument’s laborious and costly construction. (Payments were never wired from the same location twice, Martin said.) Fendley died in 2005, and Martin, who exchanged letters with Christian for years after the creation of the guidestones, passed away last December. 

  • So we know who physically made these things, but the public will probably never know who came up with the idea or who paid for the job.
    • And no one can agree on what they actually mean. The inscriptions are ambiguous as all hell.
    • They were written in 8 modern languages and 4 dead languages.
      • English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindi, Hebrew, Arabic, Traditional Chinese, and Russian
      • Some sources also say Sanskrit was on there

On the stones are ten instructions:

  1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
  2. Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.
  3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
  4. Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason.
  5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
  6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
  7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
  8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
  9. Prize truth — beauty — love — seeking harmony with the infinite.
  10. Be not a cancer on the earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature.

Many hate the stones. When Randall Sullivan of Wired visited the stones in 2009, they had been vandalized, “Death to the new world order” painted on them in polyurethane paint.

Sullivan writes:

The astrological specifications for the Guidestones were so complex that Fendley had to retain the services of an astronomer from the University of Georgia to help implement the design. The four outer stones were to be oriented based on the limits of the sun’s yearly migration. The center column needed two precisely calibrated features: a hole through which the North Star would be visible at all times, and a slot that was to align with the position of the rising sun during the solstices and equinoxes. The principal component of the capstone was a 7\8-inch aperture through which a beam of sunlight would pass at noon each day, shining on the center stone to indicate the day of the year.

But today, astronomers say the astronomical features on the guidestones are crude—”an abacus compared to Stonehenge’s computer,” Loris Magnani of the University of Georgia told Neimark.

It’s unlikely the mysteries of the Guidestones will ever be revealed now, as the monument was destroyed by an explosive device Wednesday morning, the New York Times’ Livia Albeck-Ripkareports. Footage released by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI) shows a detonation reducing one of the side stones and part of the capstone to rubble around 4 a.m., and a car leaving the area shortly after.

Though part of the monument was still standing after the explosion, the entirety had to be demolished by officials in the aftermath out of safety concerns. Investigators currently haven’t released any kind of suspect description or possible motive, according to the AP, and are asking the public for assistance in figuring out who was behind the attack. Prior vandalism to the monument led to the county installing cameras at the site that were able to capture footage of a silver sedan fleeing the scene.

The Guidestones have been the subject of controversy since their erection in 1979 by an anonymous individual known only as R.C. Christian, the New York Times reports. Wyatt Martin, who assisted Christian with installing the monument, claims to be the only individual to know Christian’s true identity and says he’ll never divulge the benefactor’s secret.

Standing 19 feet high outside of the small city of Elberton, the stones both serve as an astrological calendar (a hole in the center stone allows the midday sun to shine through on the day’s respective date) and as a mysterious message to humanity.

The first two rules have led some to imply that the stones endorse eugenics or genocide, per the Independent’s Graig Graziosi. Backlash of that kind and that the stones were “built for cult and devil worship” began upon the monuments’ unveiling, and only increased in the advent of the internet era. Prominent conspiracy theorist Alex Jones has linked them to the Illuminati.

“We’ve seen this with QAnon and multiple other conspiracy theories, that these ideas can lead somebody to try to take action in furtherance of these beliefs,” Katie McCarthy, a conspiracy theory researcher for the Anti-Defamation League, tells CBS. “They can attempt to try and target the people and institutions that are at the center of these false beliefs … [These conspiracy theories] do and can have a real-world impact.”

  • Were these stones part of some satanic cult’s agenda!?
    • No, I doubt it. But I can see why people would speculate as much. They weren’t cheap and they likely would have lasted a long time against the elements had it not been for someone blowing them up .
  • On the other hand: Do I think what was written on them was going to be a civilization-building pillar for furture generations to look to for guidance?
    • No, I don’t think that either. Does the OG Stonehenge guide our civilization today? Does Gobekli Teppe (arguably the most exciting archeological discovery of the past 3 decades)? Do the Pyramids?
    • No they don’t . They are certainly marvels from the ancient world and they do draw on our collective curiosities, but we don’t need them to kickstart civilization. That comes out of hundreds, thousands, millions, and now billions of people believing in a common idea or set of ideas. THAT’s what makes a civilization… not ten instructions written on some pretty white stones…
      • Not to mention the instructions would likely be frustratingly (or dangerously) ambiguous… or in the case of the population control instruction… unrealistic.
  • The stones are definitely interesting or… they were.
    • I’ve often thought about what as a species could do to relay clearer messages to the archeologists of the distant future. Our ancestors made it damn-hard for us to interpret their messages, requiring rosetta stones found by chance and backbreaking work diggint stuff up.
  • What do you think Who’d a Thunkers?
    • Is it a worthwhile venture for our current society to spend our resources on generations or civilizations of the future (civilizations that will likely be unrecognizable to us now) just to send them a message… just to fatten their history books?
    • I sure-as-shit think so and so do lots of organizations. That’s what time capsules are all about.
      • put some valuable stuff in a sealed durable container, bury it, and hope someone unearths it some day in wonderment. .. knowing full-well you will not be around to see them open it.
        • It is a weird niche version of dreaming. Its cool to me.
    • But I say we go bigger. ! How about we bury an apache helicopter or like gobekli tepe, we could bury a temple, skyscraper, or even a town!

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Blucifer

The content below is from Episode 134 of the Who’d a Thunk It? Podcast

  • If you are hearing this than you are still listening to the Who’d a Thunk It? Podcast after a 2-week break.
    • They say podcasts that miss release dates (regardless of the reason) suffer by losing their listeners.
    • I got married and because I hugged like 140 people during my wedding, I got covid and felt awful. Those two reasons and because my voice was practically gone all last week are why I skipped two weeks.
    • Sorry, Who’d a Thunkers. But we are back!

RECOMMENDATION SEGMENT

  • This week I recommend you watch Ted Lasso on Apple TV
    • I know there aren’t many people with Apple TV, but this show is worth checking out. At least the first season anyway ( I haven’t started season 2).
    • But during my wife and I’s time quarantined off from the rest of the world for the last 8 days we found some cool shows.
    • I hit play on Ted Lasso not thinking much of it except that I like the main actor Jason Sudeikis. I was pleasantly surprised to find this is a very good feely show to enjoy.
    • Here’s the plot:
      • An American football coach is hired to manage a British soccer team; what he lacks in knowledge, he makes up for in optimism, determination, and biscuits.
  • Jason Sudeikis usually plays a raunchy character for many of his more popular roles like Horrible Bosses and We’re the Millers, but in Ted Lasso he is a super kind and loveable character.
  • This show made the depressing reality of quarantining a little bit better and I wanted to share it with you guys.

NOW FOR THE MAIN EVENT

  • Traveling can be fun or it can be a nightmare… or both.
    • But when arriving at Denver, Colorado via airplane, the gazes of travelers inevitably fall on a giant statue that not only appears as if it has trotted right out of a nightmare, but has a back story suggesting it is cursed.
    • This is a tale of art, tragedy, and conspiracy theories.
  • The gigantic statue of a blue horse with red glowing eyes standing on its hind legs outside of Denver’s International Airport has the official moniker of “Blue Mustang,” but everyone calls it Blucifer.
    • Weighing in at 9,000 pounds, the 32-foot tall fiberglass sculpture was initially designed to capture the feel of the American Wild West. With bulging veins and articulate muscles, Luis Jiménez, the artist behind the sculpture, felt that his horse would represent the power and freedom of the American mustang.
    • The airport wanted to get a tourist attraction right near the airport property for people to pull off the road and take a picture with it. They started looking around for sculptors in 1993, but the statue wouldn’t be erected for another 15 years due to all sorts of problems.
    • There were airport security concerns and legal issues:
      • Luis Jiménez, head sculptor, was paid $165,000 upfront and promised to pay another $135,000 once the job was finished (totaling $300K). But Jiménez kept missing deadline after deadline so the city filed a lawsuit against him to try and get their money back.
      • The lawsuit bared no fruit for the city of Denver and they would eventually pay the sculptor team a total of $650,000 before it was all said in done.
        • Some conspiracy theorists suggest this sort of deal was as if the city of Denver had made a deal with the devil.
  • One of the main reasons for delays was the death of Luis Jiménez himself in 2006.
    • A sad loss of life, but not unheard of as he was 65 at the time of his death. But Luis didn’t die of a heart attack or stroke… He died while working on the sculpture in his workshop. A large section of the 32-foot tall, 9,000-pound sculpture fell onto its creator’s leg, crushing it and severing an artery. The piece of his own artwork pinned Luis against a steel support beam as he bled out.
    • After his death, the sculpture would be finished by Luis’s sons. The finished product would never be seen by its creator.
American mustangs attack and defend by rearing, similar to the pose of Denver International Airport’s big blue horse. Photo credit: skibreck (istock).
Blucifer is massive
  • Luis Jiménez didn’t just create Blucifer. He is a well-known artist that has works featured in the Smithsonian.
    • Before he finished Blucifer, Luis created a couple other horse sculptures so he could get a better feel for the larger peice. They are almost exact copies of Blucifer. They are worth a pretty penny these days due to Blucifer’s fame.
  • One of the most fascinating stories behind Blucifer’s creation was Luis’s choice to pick the color Blue for this massive sculpture.
    • Legend has it that roaming around Colorado’s vast San Luis Valley is a powerful wild mustang leading a herd of wild horses… and he is bright blue with red glowing eyes. They say this blue wild mustang can always find water and grass for his herd. Besides the color of his coat and eyes, this mustang doesn’t seem too mythical, but then there is the fact that he can supposedly fly… But that is why Luis chose the color blue for his fiberglass sculpture and gave it red eyes. A flying wild legendary mustang is the perfect mascot for an airport.
    • The eyes of Blucifer actually glow and that is a tribute to Jiménez’s father who owned a neon sign shop. When Luis was a young boy he would spend time in his dad’s sign shop and be fascinated by the glow of the neon. Through that early fascination and the love of his father, he made Blucifer’s eyes actually glow.
  • I personally think Blucifer looks badass. I love it and so do many people.
    • But there are also critics out there.
    • Some believe that a sculpture that caused the death of its creator should not be displayed and that displaying it is even disrespectful
      • This actually made me chuckle because any artist who died doing what they love (creating art) would be LIVID if they found out the piece they gave their life for would up being destroyed or worse, collecting dust in a basement somewhere. Plus, Luis’s sons finished the piece. No one is disrespected by this thing… at least not by Luis’s death.
    • Other people don’t like how the horse’s genitalia is not omitted from the piece…
      • Ok, this is weird. It’s a horse. Horses have genitalia. Simple as that. Grow up.
    • The statue is officially called Mustang, but nicknames like Blucifer, “Satan’s Stallion,” “Denver’s Demon Mustang,” and “DIAblo” were all created to give the statue a negative persona. I think it just makes the statue even more badass LOL.
  • Poor Blucifer gets a bad rap. It is an amazing work of art that should be celebrated even more than it already is, because it captures the spirit of Colorado so well. But considering all the conspiracies surrounding the Airport it represents… Bluey was bound to get some bad rep.
    • Not only has Blucifer got the conspiracy theorists all riled up about satanic rituals and whatnot… but There are a ton of conspiracy theories surrounding this airport itself, and it all started with the construction.
    • Massive delays of 16 months and a $4.8 billion price tag ($2 billion over budget) led people to think something was going on that they didn’t know about.
      • Where is all that extra cash going? Is it a big laundering scheme? Are they building an underground bunker?
      • My guess is that all that money went to human mistakes.
    • It’s also the largest airport in the United States for no apparent reason, nearly double the size of the second largest.
      • That is sort of stange considering Denver is in the middle of the continental US and not near a large sea port or anything.
    • Then there was a former construction worker who claimed that there were five multi-level buildings beneath the airport built for an unknown purpose.
  • If that’s not enough, there’s also super creepy murals on the walls that some people claim depict an apocalyptic scenario in which the New World Order is taking over the modern world.
  • These fears have also stemmed from the airport’s dedication stone, displaying a Masonic symbol and giving thanks to the “New World Airport Commission” for their support in funding the project. Is something strange happening at Denver International Airport? Probably not, but perhaps.
  • Nothing has made me want to visit Colorado more than knowing it is the base of some new world-order conspiracy!
    • JK, I have a buddy who lives in Colorado who just got married a month before my own wedding and I would have loved to have been there for it… but the dingus listed an Air BNB as the reception for us to stay in saying it sleeps 32 people… when Air BNB says it only slept 17… LOL
    • Plus, he suggested guests fly into Albequerque New Mexico… which is a 6-hour drive by rental car to the venue… some quick googling found there was an airport 20 minutes away from the venue. Too many dingus variables going on with that wedding. But I wish him and his new partner the best of luck.
  • So what do you think Who’d a Thunkers?
    • Is the Denver International Airport a secret bunker for the world’s elites to hide in when the apocalypse hits so they can emerge as the new world order and is Blucifer the satanic symbol to represent that new world order?
    • Or is it just a badass piece of art by a great artist who tragically died working on his own creation?

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